Part 129 OpSpec Working Group (OSWG) meeting minutes



May 6, 2009    1300 - 1600


Joint Session – (US) domestic OSWG and the international (Part 129)) OSWG


Meeting minutes from the joint session will be forwarded at a later date.



May 7, 2009    0900 - 1300


Part 129 OSWG


Part 129 Industry Chair:  Brian Miles

FAA Part 129 Chair:  Danuta Pronczuk

Attended: 36


Welcome by Brian Miles and Danuta Pronczuk. 


Brief overview of the history, purpose and scope of the OSWG – by Brian Miles

The OSWG was created so that foreign air carriers would have a venue via which they could express areas of concern to their operation.  It is an opportunity to vet solutions among a wide range of foreign air carriers and the FAA.  The primary goal of the OSWG is to reduce the volume of OpSpecs while maintaining a high level of safety and compliance with international standards.  During the sessions there is a great deal of information being exchanged.  The side bar conversations that take place give the meeting the added value of providing the air carriers with an opportunity to establish new contacts, as well as maintain and renew old contacts. 


Self introductions made by each attendee of the OSWG.  (Contact list of each attendee with their details is attached).


Review and demonstration of how to navigate the following websites: - the public website on which the FAA posts: OSWG meeting location information, agenda items and draft paragraphs.  Once on the site go to “POLICY”, “OpSpecs”, “Draft OpSpecs” to view any draft documents or “POLICY”, “OpSpecs”, “OSWG”, “OSWG Additional Information” for meeting announcements.; - FAA guidance documents.  For example if you are looking for guidance documents relating to OpSpec A001, once on the website click:  “8900.1 Contents”, “Volume 12 International Aviation”, Chapter 2, Section 3, and scroll down to OpSpec A001.  You can also use the “Quick Search” function by typing key words of the document that you are looking for and clicking on the “Go” button.


by: Joaquin R. Ochoa



OpSpec A001


Special Purpose Pilot Authorizations – extension of age limit from age 60 to age 65.  Operators using foreign pilots to fly US aircraft are no longer limited to age 60.  They can now fly up to age 65.

Review of required items i.e. airports to be used.  When an air carrier changes which airports it uses for flight within the US, the air carrier needs to provide this updated information to the office tasked with oversight responsibility (the office which issues the foreign air carriers OpSpecs).


by Danuta Pronczuk and Brian Miles.  Historical background overview on age limits provided by Marlene Livack.


Update on the progress of the Part 129 rulemaking presented by Darcy Reed.

There are two rulemakings underway: the 129 Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (NPRM), and the 129 Aviation Rulemaking Committee (ARC).  The 129 NPRM proposes editorial changes and other regulatory requirements while the 129 ARC is a major rulemaking effort.  The 129 ARC is significant to the OSWG because it proposes to take some of the operational requirements now contained in OpSpecs and move them to the new rule.  This new rule would reduce the volume of OpSpecs that are currently required to be issued to a foreign air carrier.


WebOPSS demonstration - by Robert (Bob) Davis.

The demonstration showed the attendees what the new electronic website looks like, how to log on, the differences between IOPSS and WebOPSS, and its many features.  For example, how you can notify the office that you have made changes to an OpSpec and need the principle inspector to review and sign the document.  Bob also demonstrated how user friendly WeOPSS is and how to create and update OpSpecs within the WebOPPS.  Bob conducted the presentation from the actual site that once WebOPSS is rolled out will be available to all industry and the FAA.


FAA Order 8900.1 currency status update conducted by Danuta Pronczuk

International Programs and Policy Division (AFS-50) chartered a working group to review all guidance documents relating to International Aviation.  This process will update all guidance documents within FAA Order 8900.1 that relate to foreign air carrier operation within the US.


Future meetings

The OSWG decided it would be beneficial to hold two face to face meetings per year in Washington DC.  It was agreed that there is value added to holding a joint session with the domestic (US) OSWG as well as holding a Part 129 OSWG session. 









Next meeting  


Expect to start the joint session on the morning of October 21st and the Part 129 session in the afternoon, on October 21st.  Depending on the volume of agenda items there may also be a morning session for the Part 129 OSWG on October 22nd.  For those interested in attending the domestic (US) OSWG session as well, you will need to plan on a start date of the afternoon on October 20th.  Further details will be coming via IATA and will be posted on


Danuta Pronczuk took the action item to work with the domestic OSWG to ensure a better structure for the joint session.


Industry concerns were presented by Brian Miles. 

Several action items were taken from these concerns.  The resolution to these action items has been placed on the October OSWG agenda.


October Action Items:


A request was made for standardization among offices. The industry burden placed by the17 page Best Practice checklist.  It was requested that such future industry requests be coordinated and come from AFS-50.  – Action item taken by Marlene Livack


ICAO Annex 1, recommendation

If the State of the Operator permits a copilot over age 65 will the FAA permit it as well? - Action item taken by Beverly Sharkey


Positive notification of OpSpec changes affecting Part 129– Action item taken by Danuta Pronczuk


How to maintain communication when the field office undergoes changes in personnel? How can we ensure that the foreign air carrier can always reach its principal operations inspector (POI)?  Joaquin Ochoa recommended the solution the Miami International Field Office has put in place, namely a generic mailbox.  The OSWG liked this idea. – Action item taken by Marlene Livack


Continuous Positive Airway Pressure Machines (CPAP) – does the FAA have a list of approved CPAP devices?  - Action item taken by Beverly Sharkey.


Restrictions on congregating around the bathroom – is it still valid?  - Action item taken by Beverly Sharkey.





OpSpec C059 and OpSpec C060; if the State of the Operator has issued approval for Cat II and Cat III then why the list of airports and runways?   It was determined that the expertise of Colby Johnson would be valuable.  – Action item taken by Danuta Pronczuk


WebOPSS – making it mandatory as a policy and training at the field office that oversees the Part 129 operator.  The air carriers that were using the electronic system for OpSpecs indicated that the speed of the electronic system is preferable to the paper system.  Due to English, for most air carriers, not being their first language, it was noted that in house training at the field office level (which oversees an individual Part 129 operator) would be preferential and more effective then training at Oklahoma City.  An air carrier being trained on the new system at the field office level would have ready access to the principal inspector overseeing its OpSpecs.  – Action item taken by Marlene Livack



Additional concerns/requests for placement on future OSWG meetings may be emailed to Danuta Pronczuk ( ) and Brian Miles ( ).